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morgana
the secret garden
16 of 54  Mon 11th Nov 2013 4:03pm  

Ask any fireman and he will tell you all high rise are a death trap especially in the stairwells and communal areas, the review in the link is not just Lakanal House but all high rise blocks.
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Midland Red

17 of 54  Mon 11th Nov 2013 5:03pm  

On 10th Nov 2013 11:28pm, morgana said: that's all I've got to say on this subject. Big grin
Roll eyes You continue to miss the point - this development is not a high-rise block of flats, with dark and dingy staircases and stairwells, tired old vandalised lifts (often out of order), left to the council or rip-off landlords to maintain(!) I would not like to live in one of those, or be forced to due to circumstance However, the idea of a managed, staffed facility like the proposed Coventry Village scheme, offering so many facilities in attractive and well maintained surroundings, would be of great interest to me It reminds me in some ways of one of the modern multi-storey cruise ships, which will have docked in Albany Road, with every facility available on board for the cruisers (residents), giving them ability to disembark and visit the nearby city, and further afield, knowing that their abode is in the safe hands of ExtraCare What a wonderful facility for the future elderly population Cheers
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artful
lancashire
18 of 54  Mon 11th Nov 2013 7:21pm  

AH but it's the 2014 standards that would worry me.
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morgana
the secret garden
19 of 54  Mon 11th Nov 2013 10:53pm  

Yes I agree fully with you on the care and facilities but not high, ground level mainly to me. I don't think any buildings for homes should be more than 3 storeys high at the most and if we had spread the homes across our town like this we wouldn't have been forced by government to build thousands and thousands more homes here as we wouldn't have the land left Big grin would we, which they don't want to build in recent news.
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morgana
the secret garden
20 of 54  Mon 11th Nov 2013 10:56pm  

On 11th Nov 2013 7:21pm, artful said: AH but it's the 2014 standards that would worry me.
Oh my I hadn't thought of that one but thank you Artful. I agree with Harriet Harman, landlords should not do their own fire checks, I think they should pay the fire brigade to do it, as it's their lives at risk when they have to fight through these buildings to save peoples lives and put fires out.
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Mike H
London Ontario, Canada
21 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 10:11am  

On 11th Nov 2013 5:03pm, Midland Red said: It reminds me in some ways of one of the modern multi-storey cruise ships, which will have docked in Albany Road, with every facility available on board.
Not so sure about the merits of docking in Albany Rd, but I am in complete agreement re the rest of what you say - a great place to live for the older amongst us.
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mcsporran
Coventry & Cebu
22 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 12:00pm  

On 11th Nov 2013 5:03pm, Midland Red said: What a wonderful facility for the future elderly population Cheers
I agree. The government is doing precious little to cope with the huge bubble of post-war births who are now all reaching retirement age. The situation is hardly unpredictable, yet their reaction is to raise the pension age and reduce the state pension in real terms. At least private enterprise is doing something useful. When you get to the state where you can't cope by yourself, would you rather stay in your own house alone with occasional visits by care workers, and if you're lucky, a family member, or would you live in a 'village' like this? The planning application is: FUL/2013/0085
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Annewiggy
Tamworth
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23 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 12:09pm  

As I started this topic I thought I had better put in my four penn'orth. I don't think anyone would criticize the hard work and dedication of the care workers, having only just lost my 90 year old mum I don't have enough praise for the staff who looked after her in her last years when she had become a very difficult old lady. I also like the concept of these places with all the facilities they offer when you are the right age to appreciate it (not too far off in my case). We did look at a couple when we felt our mum needed more care that the sheltered accommodation could offer but then she was at such an age that she wouldn't have appreciated the facilities. My only concern when I first saw it was the scale of the project. Having worked in places where Health and Safety, Risk assessments and fire practices are order of the day I would like to know what the plans were in case of fire for evacuation of infirm, confused or wheelchair bound residents. I appreciate that it is a modern building without dark corridors and broken down lifts but we are all told not to use lifts in a fire. If the residents are told to stay in their flats what is the procedure for getting them out especially ones on the highest floor? How long can they stay in their flat ? The same group have built a similar project to this in Lichfield which is 3 storeys high which looks a much better prospect.
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TonyS
Coventry
24 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 3:04pm  

Sorry to disagree mcsporran, but I would have thought this is the last place anyone would want to be "When you get to the state where you can't cope for yourself". In those circumstances I would imagine a care-home would be the best order of the day, where a more intimate environment would help. These facilities appear to be aimed more at the "active elderly" and I agree with Anne, the size of this development looks rather daunting. Also, if not carefully researched by a prospective "tenant", it could rather quickly become more of a prison than the happy/friendly/glossy place the web-site brochure exudes. I'd prefer to reserve my final judgment for now.
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mickw
nuneaton
25 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 4:37pm  

Hi all, I have read this topic for the past couple of days with great interest. Whilst you all have good argument for the plus and minus of this development I speak from a personal view. I am a 59 year old with a disabling medical condition who was very fit until three years ago. I live in a house in a village, I can now never leave the house without my very caring wife, so if I could afford it I would jump at the chance to live at a place like this. I think with a mobility scooter would give me some freedom and independence which ever floor I lived on and would give my wife a break. Having worked in the construction industry for over 30 years I would assume this development would include the latest fire detection and sprinkler systems which would minimize fire risk and latest alarm systems to summon help and of course be designed for people like myself in mind. Until I became housebound I would never have given a place like this a comment. It gives me hope for the future. All my comments are based on the development advertisement so we will just have to wait and see if it actually happens and if it is affordable??? Sorry to go on but would just like a bit of normality in life
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Midland Red

26 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 4:58pm  

No need for any apology, mickw - thanks for a thoughtful response to this topic Thumbs up I think the second poster failed to distinguish between council-run tower blocks in deprived or run down areas and the kind of development of which this thread is the subject Whilst I agree with many of her opinions regarding the former, they do seem fairly irrelevant to this scheme, and it is very interesting to hear your opinions, bearing in mind your own unfortunate situation I'm sure all other forum members will join me in wishing you and your good lady well for your future - perhaps you will be the first forum member to become a Coventry Villager! Cheers
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mickw
nuneaton
27 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 6:48pm  

Hi MR thank you for your well wishes, Mrs W and myself are very touched. I felt compelled to make my thoughts known as I thought this topic was starting to get heated and no real positives being discussed. I don`t really care how tall short long or thin the building is if it does what it says on the tin, then it can only be a good thing for myself and many others in my position. Once again thank you for your concern Cheers
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NeilsYard
Coventry
28 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 7:18pm  

Perhaps its my interpretation of the images but is there really enough room in that spot for something that size? If it were my money I'd want one with a North-Easterly aspect for free Rugby! Big grin
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Midland Red

29 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 7:22pm  

Nah, gricing beats egg-chasing! Oh my
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TonyS
Coventry
30 of 54  Tue 12th Nov 2013 7:33pm  

On 12th Nov 2013 4:37pm, mickw said: ...I would jump at the chance to live at a place like this...
Excellent post mickw, maybe I have also mis-understood this whole thing! It's easy for someone to have an opinion (me) - but a totally different matter when someone has an interest - like yourself! Thumbs up I wish you well Cheers
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