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Helen F
Warrington
271 of 282  Tue 19th Mar 2024 10:06pm  

That would explain the explosion of activity in the 20s and 30s. When I first started looking at Coventry's early streets, I assumed that the War had wiped it all out but the town planners probably had a bigger hand in the destruction.
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rocksolid
Bristol
272 of 282  Tue 19th Mar 2024 11:14pm  

On 18th Mar 2024 7:53pm, Annewiggy said: There seems to be a lot of tailors round at that time, all trying to say they made the cheapest suits. There is a Fred Burn, tailor in Birmingham, so I don't know if that is the same man. I did find an ad that said Fred had 2 other shops but I will have to find that again. The cinema was going to be built by Capital and Provincial news theatres Ltd and was to seat 400 people with a shop in front, so not too small. They pulled out of the project, saying they could not carry it out.
I think it's more than likely that the Birmingham Fred Burn is the same as the Coventry namesake. it would be too much of a coincidence to have 2 tailors of the same name in adjoining towns. There were a number of firms pre-war who had branches in several Midland towns such as Whitfield's (Wolverhampton) Ltd ladies wear in Broadgate, T A Collins Ltd, boots and shoes, and A D Wimbush and Son Ltd bakers who had branches all over the West Midlands.
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NeilsYard
Coventry
273 of 282  Thu 21st Mar 2024 1:13pm  

Thanks to CliffB - 1931
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Helen F
Warrington
274 of 282  Thu 21st Mar 2024 1:41pm  

So Fred hadn't started his upgrade at that point. It always irks me that the distant view is almost always obscured in these photos but I forget how much cleaner our air is now, which in turn leads to less mist and fog.
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rocksolid
Bristol
275 of 282  Thu 21st Mar 2024 7:15pm  

I've seen this photo before but never noticed something. Just left of centre, ie the the left of the tram and the dark van there is something going on on the pavement. It looks like a small group of people crowding round ... what? a street stall? Is that likely? It's a shame the picture isn't clearer, I would love to know what they were up to? I wonder if there's a zoomable copy somewhere. Coventry Digital maybe?
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Helen F
Warrington
276 of 282  Thu 21st Mar 2024 10:46pm  

It's not one that I've seen on Coventry Digital. They do seem to be peering at something. Maybe there are excavations going on beyond the barrier? It's where the remains of any foundations where the Crystal Palace pub would have been. There is quite a series of photographs here now tracking the demolitions and new buildings along that side. 1914 Comeley's rebuilt over the river and #1, 2 Post 1926 #9-14 demolished Demolished before 1929 #4-8 ???? #15-17 demolished 1929 Wine Lodge Opened 1929 #3 year Crystal Palace pub closed and demolished When Burton's joined Comeley's on the plots of 1 and 2, there was a bit of renumbering to make it 1, 2 and 3. The real number 3, the Crystal Palace pub, became 3a. I've just wasted an hour working out exactly what the building sat on because of the renumbering. Angry
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Helen F
Warrington
277 of 282  Fri 31st May 2024 3:50pm  

An area not well covered by images is the stretch of Cross Cheaping between The Forbidden Planet at 31 and Ironmongers Row, but here a photo from the newspaper archives and one from Rob's collection, do the job. The entry to Ironmongers Row was the gap next to the tram. Forum image
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Prof
Gloucester
278 of 282  Sun 2nd Jun 2024 6:16pm  

flapdoodle, see my post 142 Palmer Lane, the building was Tuck & Blakemore, builders merchants/ironmongers/tools.
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rocksolid
Bristol
279 of 282  Mon 3rd Jun 2024 11:35am  

On 18th Mar 2024 7:53pm, Annewiggy said: There seems to be a lot of tailors round at that time, all trying to say they made the cheapest suits. There is a Fred Burn, tailor in Birmingham, so I don't know if that is the same man. I did find an ad that said Fred had 2 other shops but I will have to find that again. The cinema was going to be built by Capital and Provincial news theatres Ltd and was to seat 400 people with a shop in front, so not too small. They pulled out of the project, saying they could not carry it out.
Anne, Re Fred Burn, I've recently bought a book of photographic images of Derby 'The Winter's Collection of Derby, Volume 1' and was intrigued to see that in an image from c 1935, there was a shop in the Cornmarket, a major city centre shopping street, belonging to Fred Burn, 'The City Tailor' so maybe that was his other branch? Geoff
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Annewiggy
Tamworth
280 of 282  Tue 4th Jun 2024 11:01am  

There are the same adverts for Fred Burn in the Derby Telegraph and the CET in 1934 with the local addressed so yes it is him ! There are also similar adverts in Walsall Observer, Leicester Evening Mail and Birmingham Mail for shops in those towns. I wonder where the suits were made.
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Helen F
Warrington
281 of 282  Mon 24th Jun 2024 7:52pm  

Thanks to Mary Dormer Harris, I finally know which address this grand doorway served - number 16 Cross Cheaping, although it probably was the entrance to one grand house along with number 15. The suggestion was that most of it was salvage from somewhere else but it would not have been out of place with the 3 storey jettied building. On the left we have St Michael and on the right is St George. Number 16 was 'Franks' and number 15 was 'George Mason'. Its neighbour number 14 was very similar in appearance as a 3 storey jettied building before it was rebuilt in the style shown in the photo below. Dr Troughton captured the ancient building and yard behind.
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Annewiggy
Tamworth
282 of 282  Tue 25th Jun 2024 12:42pm  

Number 14 was the shop of Mr Ambrose, Grocer. In 1887 it was "modernised" ! by Mr Goodson, who opened a mantle warehouse (selling coats and jackets), where he felt he had transformed a somewhat old fashioned grocers into a modern emporium !
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