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Helen F
Warrington
31 of 64  Fri 25th Oct 2024 1:10pm  

Coventry was the first city in the world to be twinned internationally... although it would be joint first with Stalingrad/Volgograd.
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Mick Strong
Coventry
32 of 64  Fri 25th Oct 2024 6:35pm  

On 25th Oct 2024 12:18pm, 20A-Manor House said: October 1966. The first yellow Dennis F36 fire engine made its debut at the Chief Fire Officer's annual conference at Southport. For the City of Coventry Fire Brigade. KDU 997D being the first of three purchased: Yellow paint specification number P339/7419 at I.C.I. Paint Division. Yellow having a wave length of 5300-5500 angstroms.
Hi 20A-Manor House Was this colour an experiment to make them more visible than the red ones?
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JohnnieWalker
Sanctuary Point, Australia
33 of 64  Fri 25th Oct 2024 8:36pm  

That's my understanding of it - particularly as orange sodium lights were beginning to be used along the main city roads in the 1960s.
True Blue Coventry Kid

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Bedworth
34 of 64  Fri 25th Oct 2024 9:51pm  

The yellow fire engines glowed almost silver in the sodium street lights. The later red fire engines of the West Midlands Fire Service appeared a dull grey in the same lighting conditions. The yellow paint was actually called 'Coventry Fire Brigade Yellow'.
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20A-Manor House
35 of 64  Fri 25th Oct 2024 10:38pm  
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Annewiggy
Tamworth
36 of 64  Sat 26th Oct 2024 8:16am  

Another first on these yellow fire engines ( a friend of ours would always say "they are not fire engines they are fire appliances" ) was that they were the first in the country to be equipped with air compressor power tools like cutting and jacking equipment and lighting.
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Wearethemods
Aberdeenshire
37 of 64  Sat 26th Oct 2024 8:55am  

Cengar saw and zip gun, Anne Thumbs up
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20A-Manor House
38 of 64  Sat 26th Oct 2024 5:32pm  
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Bedworth
39 of 64  Sat 26th Oct 2024 5:39pm  

Whatever the intention, the yellow paint certainly made the fire appliances stand out under the sodium street lights. I was not a fireman but have seen them in action at a road accident and guess that they were probably safer because their fire appliance was utterly more visible than the old or the later red appliances (there was even a pink one some time in the 70's). This was all before the days of bright yellow hi-vis jackets and trousers and reflective stripes. On the subject of air tools, I recall a fireman telling the story about 1974 when Coventry, Solihull, and Sutton Coldfield found themselves part of the new West Midlands Fire Service. There had been a road accident somewhere in the centre of Birmingham, possibly the A38M, and a person was trapped. An appliance from I think Solihull was despatched and arrived at the scene complete with the compressed air cutting gear. The Birmingham firemen had never seen anything so modern, although they all had big axes. The unfortunate victim was soon cut free from the car and whisked away to hospital. In the meantime the Solihull crew demonstrated the equipment to their Birmingham colleagues by cutting more bits off the wrecked car. The Birmingham boys then had a play, cutting even more bits off the car which was a nearly new Jensen Interceptor belonging to a well know pop star, although he was not in the car at the time. Apparently he took the loss of his car quite well and went out and bought another.
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PhiliPamInCoventry
Holbrooks
40 of 64  Sat 26th Oct 2024 5:48pm  

Hello, I heartily agree with your comments regards Birmingham resourced equipment. Possibly the fact that Birmingham council was a collection of village committees, funding had to be agreed by so many integral bodies. Folks still refer to Eardington village, Aston village & so on. Only a thought.
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Bedworth
41 of 64  Sat 26th Oct 2024 6:40pm  

Philip, I think you are right. Coventry has long had a reputation as a city of invention and innovation, hence this forum topic. Birmingham had those same qualities, but it was more than a couple of hundred years ago. In my experience, the Brummies liked to be thought of as conservative (with a small 'c'), yet I often wonder if the reality was that they were bogged down by their own complex administration, or maybe they were just penny pinchers. New equipment has to be purchased, maintained, and eventually replaced. Staff will need training and re-training to operate that equipment. All costly issues, maybe better to say, 'Grandad made do with a sharp axe, so why do you want some new fangled compressed air cutting gear'. This is not a downer on Brummies, they are the salt of the earth, at least the people at the sharp end are.
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Rob Orland
Historic Coventry
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42 of 64  Sun 27th Oct 2024 9:47am  

On 26th Oct 2024 8:16am, Annewiggy said: Another first on these yellow fire engines ( a friend of ours would always say "they are not fire engines they are fire appliances" ) was that they were the first in the country to be equipped with air compressor power tools like cutting and jacking equipment and lighting.
Nice one, Anne, I've added this extra information now. Smile
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Mick Strong
Coventry
43 of 64  Sun 27th Oct 2024 12:39pm  

I have read somewhere that Coventry was the birthplace of "The Green Party", originally called The Peoples Party"? Any thoughts?
Mick Strong

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Helen F
Warrington
44 of 64  Sun 27th Oct 2024 12:47pm  

"The Green Party of England and Wales has its roots in the PEOPLE Party started in Coventry in 1972/3 by four professional friends (Michael Benfield, Freda Sanders, Tony Whittaker and Lesley Whittaker). It then changed its name to the more descriptive Ecology Party in 1975, and to the Green Party ten years later." Double thumbs up Mick.
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argon
New Milton
45 of 64  Sun 27th Oct 2024 4:15pm  

Coventry blue dye and ribbons
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