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Helen F
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Sat 22nd Jun 2024 2:04pm
One of the areas that is captured the most is Broadgate but working out which pre photography images are genuine is very frustrating. One of the first you, and certainly I came across, is this one of the Cross. Courtesy of our Rob via Coventry Digital, I love it but it's entirely fake. Even the Cross itself is a mediocre copy of genuine sketches. The styling of the buildings is somewhat off and the building on the right looks positively French. You can detect building differences between various regions of the country. Coventry's ancient buildings more closely resemble those in Suffolk and Kent than say Cheshire or Lancashire. Despite local styles, you'll often see modern computer games showing distinctly European medieval buildings, when the locations are supposed to be English. When did you see a castle built out of red sandstone in a reconstruction, and yet one of the most interesting ones, Kenilworth, is most definitely a red head.
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Wed 26th Jun 2024 7:43pm
You are quite right Helen, as Rolph Hellberg, who was the architect of the Cross replica, told me this one you have shown was so inaccurate it would never stand up. Presumably artistic licence is the reason!
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Helen F
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18 of 22
Fri 5th Jul 2024 2:58pm
A good example of fake buildings below. They do a fairly good job of pretending to be modernised Georgian buildings. However looking at the maps it's possible to determine that they didn't exist until Corporation Street was built. They were right on the corner of Fleet Street. The route now blocked here. Built after 1937 but there by 1939.
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Helen F
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19 of 22
Fri 23rd May 2025 9:43am
An example of what looks like a brick building but probably started out as timber is the following from West Orchard. The potential clue that it was much older is the Troughton sketch of the front, showing diamond leaded glass in the mid level windows. To add to the evidence that it was an early timber building the Goad Fire Insurance map denotes that east half was a mix of brick and timber. I assume that the reason it doesn't specify the same for the other half is because it wasn't one of their properties. Looking at the back, it seems like you can see evidence of the internal timbers?
The Fire insurance maps are very useful finding the early timber buildings although they don't pinpoint all of them. Is it likely that the west side of this building wasn't built at the same time as the east side? No.
To see how the building might have originally looked, you only have to turn to the west to its neighbour.
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Helen F
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20 of 22
Mon 2nd Jun 2025 11:11am
In the early 1900s there was a burst of interest in the medieval/Tudor/Elizabethan. They were refurbishing some of the original timber buildings and constructing new mock Tudor properties. There was a lot of work done on the Spon chapel (for which there are some excellent drawings at the Hebert). Dovecot House on the corner of Derby Lane and the Spicerstoke was going to be improved and would be complimented by the newly built Prudential building on the corner with Broadgate. That in turn book ended the view of Trinity church with what is now Wetherspoon's Flying Standard on the corner of Priory Row. Smithford Street saw a number of updated timber buildings. The first photo shows a group that were all timber framed, including the Lion Stores, but the nearest building had been brick faced and had lost its gables and jetties (done in the 1800s). The second photo shows the mock timber makeover of the 1900s to the Lion Stores.
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Helen F
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21 of 22
Thu 19th Jun 2025 8:21pm
I'll start with a favourite view of mine.
The bigger painting shows details that tie in with other old images but none of them contain all the same features, so it's not a copy of them. Is this painting showing an earlier view of the residence to the County Hall (built in 1783), a view from before the Governor's Residence was built or a made up view. I'm leaning towards an earlier view of the residence because it includes the funny roundish window at the top of the gable. Was the Governor's Residence a different date to the Hall?
So my question is - is the top storey of the Governor's Residence of County Hall as old as the rest of it?Question |
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Helen F
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22 of 22
Mon 27th Oct 2025 1:36pm
This little Baptist Chapel in Court 7 of Jordan Well pops up every now and then. My assumption was that it was built in the 1700s but looking through a detailed history of the city, it was possibly erected in 1655 (unless the original was rebuilt and given the state of it, I think not). The front windows were originally two tall openings but bricked up later, probably when the structure was repurposed as two and then 4 dwellings. Also bricked up was a small circular window on the level of the top two arched windows and potentially the door comprised the double doorways with a more arched lintel at the top. The changes are more apparent on sketches and paintings of the building but only one shows what might have been a larger arch for the front doorway. The two photos below show the building just before it was demolished to make way for the Gaumont and the other buildings on the corner of Whitefriars Street. There was obviously a pair of fancy faux pillars up either side, albeit very decayed by the time the photo was taken. I see no evidence of other embellishments but 250 years could have erased them.
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