Peter A
Rye |
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Mon 8th Apr 2013 3:34pm
If you can find a copy, Peter Burden's book 'The Lion and the Stars' A History of Bablake School, Coventry, is a good reference particularly for the times experienced by most of the contributors to this thread. It's no slim volume either running to some 300+ pages. |
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berjay
Bewdley Worcs. |
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Sat 29th Jun 2013 4:18pm
Hello to you all, I was at Bablake in Billings House. In the war I remember our maths teacher Mr Bridger coming in all dressed in his uniform of the anti aircraft unit to which he was attached. His first lesson started with "Now here we have an aircraft at x ft on a course of yy degrees. At what angle do we have to aim our guns assuming a speed of xy mph." Never did work that one out. Often wondered what happened to him?
Then there's the Bablake air defence squadron, in which we were taught how to fly a glider, start an aircraft engine "switches off, swing prop, switches on, stand by >>>>>>>>"
I well remember the squadron forming the guard of honour at the opening of Elmdon Airport, then HM heard about me and so....
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berjay
Bewdley Worcs. |
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Fri 26th Jul 2013 4:48pm
Just some further remembrances:-
Started at Bablake when Mr Franklin was the headmaster, he left to take up a post at another school, and Mr Atkinson ("Flap") became the acting head to be replaced with Mr Seabourne. During various swimming galas I swam with Bernard Daniels and his brother (whatever became of them?). I well remember being in the Arts class which looked out on the railway at Coundon Halt when into the station came a railcar which was I think on a test run!! I'll tell you that Mr Wooten had a hard time getting our attention again. Then there was Donald Soper who so "cheeked" the master for pulling out his tie that he seemed to have lost his temper and seizing a pair of scissors cut the bottom off Mr Wooten's tie. Chaos reigned supreme during which Donald was carted off to "see" Mr Seabourne (I wonder what happened? Give you one guess!!)
My mum wouldn't let me go to Lincoln when the school evacuated (she wasn't going to lose her only child to a foreign land). So I stayed behind and went through the Coventry Blitz as messenger for the A.F.S. but that's another story altogether. There's more if anyone is that interested so for now as they say "have a nice one". |
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morgana
the secret garden |
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Sun 21st Dec 2014 5:24pm
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Annewiggy
Tamworth |
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Sun 21st Dec 2014 9:12pm
What an amazing collection of pictures Morgana, thanks for finding.
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morgana
the secret garden |
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Mon 22nd Dec 2014 12:31pm
Thank you Anne so pleased enjoyed them ? |
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BugJemm
Peterborough |
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Fri 3rd Apr 2015 11:35pm
I've just stumbled across this thread while trying to find out the uniform of Bablake School in the late 1890s, as I have a boy who went to the school at about the right age and wondered if I might be able to find some old pictures of the uniform. Was slightly excited by the mention of the book with the words lion and stars given what the boy in the picture is wearing. I don't suppose any of you would know if this was the old uniform between about 1888 and 1894, which is the date suggested by the back of the card according to this?
Researching (among others) Carter, Plumb, Stanley in Coventry, Franklin in Leamington, Baker in Wellesbourne. LINK
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Helen F
Warrington |
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Sat 4th Apr 2015 8:41am
If you look in the Library Pictures (blue button to the left) you'll find a search page for many pictures, including Bablake School. Type in your search and it will give you all those images that match. It shows the uniform at different times. I'm not sure if it shows the exact dates you're after but the uniform does look like the uniform of Bablake of 1897.
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BugJemm
Peterborough |
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Sat 4th Apr 2015 10:06am
Helen, thank you. I looked around the site but had missed the image library. Looks like I have a match, which opens up a load of identification possibilities for some of my other pictures. Many thanks. Researching (among others) Carter, Plumb, Stanley in Coventry, Franklin in Leamington, Baker in Wellesbourne. LINK
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Greenhoward
Stockton near southam |
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Fri 29th May 2015 9:12pm
On 26th Feb 2013 12:28am, Bentley said:
Here's a staff photo from about 1956 or 1957. How many can you identify?
I was at Bablake 1956-62 and so remember many of the masters in this photo. Pulling all of the contributions together and adding my own tupennorth.
Back row; Elsie Philpot (chemistry); not known; Gus Garrett; Gordon Pullin; not known; not known; Jake Irons (biology) probably the strictest master at Bablake with a quick temper - the story goes that if you were in Saturday morning detention with Jake he drew a chalk dot on the board and for the first hour you had to stare at it and for the second hour write an essay about it; not known; Bud Bandy (science) - when I started Bud drove an MG with the hood down in all weathers but soon after he bought a bright blue Nash Metropolitan but somebody put sugar in his tank with dire consequences; Charlie Cook (woodwork and metalwork) - he was my form master in Shell W in 1956; not known.
Middle row; Jock Falla; Johnny Malin (French) who used to conduct the whole lesson in French; not known; not known; not known; not known; not known; Gusty Gale (history); Larry Lanham (Latin) renowned for the five L's - Larry Lanhams Lousy Latin Lessons; Joe Aitken; Gabby Hayes (English); Bob Brewer (maths).
Front row; Mr Finch (French); Taffy Phillips (languages); not known; Horace Curt (history); not known; EAS who took 4L for English Lit the only teaching he did; Flap Atkinson; Harrison (physics) - pupils used to smuggle all sorts of animals into his lesson; Duffy Duffield; Reggie Head (geography); Van Hee.
Other teachers I remember but possibly not on the photo, Johnny Lawrence (sciences); Mr Morden (physics); Blod Griffiths (chemistry); Goronwy Morgan (PE); Johnny Haynes who played rugger for Coventry; HE Wells Furby who was nicknamed HEWF and was delivered as a sort of cough, used to hit miscreants on the head with his knuckles; Rev Kelly; WC Charles (music), known as Lavatory Jack.
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ghlee
NSW Australia |
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Tue 24th May 2016 6:33am
On 16th Feb 2013 4:18pm, Rootes66 said:
Hello Rootes66
I commenced at Bablake in 1957 in Shell Z, also wondering what the "Shell" alluded to.
Well curiosity was finally satisfied when I obtained a copy of the OED.
Here's the relevant information from the OED:-
15.II.15 The apsidal end of the school-room at Westminster School, so called from its conch-like shape. Hence, the name of the form (intermediate between the fifth and sixth) which originally tenanted the 'shell' at Westminster School, and transf. of forms (intermediate between forms designated by numbers) in other public schools; see quots.
So it's an intermediate form for us as we were streamed again before 3rd form.On 28th Jan 2013 11:19pm, Steve Morley said:
I was at Bablake from 1959 to 1966.....
Have just read Steve's memories of Bablake. I was an exact contemporary, though I don't remember him, so he must have been in different classes. I started in Shell Y (I've no idea what that meant) and the following year went into the G stream for German (3G/4G). In sixth form I did sciences (L6M, 6M, U6M) and then did engineering at university.
Some of the teachers I had were the same as Steve. Had Galsworthy for physics and later "Bud Bandy" through to sixth form. For chemistry, we had John Lawrence, a very long associate of Bablake who ended up as school archivist until he died a few years ago in his seventies. In sixth form I had L C Philpot and finally John Hamlin. Of the various maths teachers, my "favourite" was "Jock Falla". "Walker, 25 perrrcent boy, pretty pooerrrr stuff boy!". On the whole the science teaching was pretty good and it did fire up my interest which was just as well as I'd been pretty mediocre at primary school and only just managed to scrape into Bablake on the 11 plus by one mark I believe. The stuff they taught there was totally boring. I was only interested in trains and making things.
Here are some more recollections of Bablake that I posted earlier on the King Henry's thread. Probably should be here really:
It's certainly entertaining to hear how bad the teachers were 40 years ago. Relationships between teachers and pupils, particularly teenage boys, were very polarised. The assumption is that all the problems were with the teachers and the pupils were blameless. I suspect the boys were far from perfect and really wound up some of the teachers who weren't good at controlling things.
I can't speak for the ethos at KHS, but as I went to Bablake from 59 to 66, I can confirm it was far from the perfect place Mr D Di has suggested, in the early years at least. I had some good teachers there, but there were others who frightened the living sh** out of us. There was a German teacher who threw the board rubber at us with considerable force, and, if he didn't think the homework was good enough, threw the whole pile of exercise books en-masse at the class. I remember on one occasion trying to give the German for 66 (sechs und sechszig) and got tongue tied. Result: after-school detention.
The headmaster in my first three years was Eric Seaborne who operated a report card system. You had to carry it around with you like a driving licence, and your misdemeanours were recorded on the card. Teachers and prefects could do it. After every three endorsements you had to go to the head, and after nine you qualified for Saturday morning detention. Each entry was graded from W (warning) up to "ringed H" which was straight to the head for a good tanning. There didn't seem to be any restriction on hitting pupils and I remember once having my head deliberately banged against a light switch in the corridor for nothing much. I was a bit of cheeky so on so, it has to be said. Incidentally, you could also get C (commendation) though that was a mixed blessing as it branded you as a swot. I did get some commendations from "Lavatory Jack" the music teacher (J Wolseley-Charles), partly because I was the only one who didn't take the p*** out of him!
The education in the 1960s at Bablake was OK for mainstream subjects, but there was little choice and very little encouragement to broaden interests. Mine was music, but there was virtually nothing doing. As Mr D Di said, the differences today are like entering a parallel universe. Our children went to the local comprehensive here in Fife and the range of curriculum options, and other things like music and art, were a million miles from Bablake in the 60s. I'm sure it's very good today.
Finally here's a photo of speech day in autumn 1964 in the Methodist Central Hall. Ted Burrough is doing his address and Van Hee (Van Flee as we called him as it looked like a puff of wind would blow him away) is at the far end of the row behind. The guys in the front row next to Burrough I think are school governors, and the guy behind Burrough may be Mr Chinn who was in charge of the local education authority. I'm looking extremely youthful at the end of the row, two behind Van Flee. I think this is a press photo from the Coventry Evening Telegraph.
Interesting Steve still has his school scarf. Mine fell apart long ago. I do remember Hammonds, in The Burges opposite the old Grammar School, and being measured up for the regulation grey three-piece suit. Amazingly (for Coventry) the building is still there today, but Hammonds are not!
ghlee
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NeilsYard
Coventry |
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Sat 30th Sep 2017 2:00am
Does anyone know anything about Katherine Bayley's Charity School? I believe it was incorporated into Bablake at some point? |
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coventry49
Budleigh Salterton, Devon |
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Sat 30th Sep 2017 11:55am
Hi Neil
Was it in Little Park Street in the old building near LPY and was later Michelmores (not sure if this name is correct). I'm pretty sure it was a school once. |
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coventry49
Budleigh Salterton, Devon |
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Sat 30th Sep 2017 11:59am
Addendum to last - Middlemores, 88 Little Park Street. |
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Midland Red
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Sat 30th Sep 2017 12:51pm
From www.bablake.com:
Much thought was being given . . . to how Bablake's place in the local educational scene might be rationalised. One idea was that it might become a form of 'middle' school between the Coventry Elementary Schools and the Grammar School (King Henry VIII). Not until 1886, though, was a new governing scheme drawn up. By 1900 Bablake was to be amalgamated with three other local schools: Baker, Billing and Crow's School (Black Gift), Katherine Bayley's Charity School (Blue Gift) and Fairfax Charity School (Green Gift). In 1890 the new school was opened on the present site as what we would now call a technical school. A few boys started to go on to study for University degrees.
Katherine Bayley's charity school was established in her memory, as a result of her will in 1723. The school was in what is now called Bayley Lane near the cathedral. It was popularly known as the Blue Gift School because of the blue facings on the drab coats the scholars wore and the pupils were irreverently known as "Blue Bottles". The original school consisted of just eight girls and eight boys but over the years girls were excluded and the number of boys considerably increased. The Blue Gift School amalgamated with the Green Gift School and Bablake in 1888. |
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