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NeilsYard
Coventry
1 of 25  Mon 4th Feb 2019 11:44pm  

Big grin All - I've been following an interesting story over the past year or so which involves a friend of mine, Paul Michael Kennelly - some may recall Paul as he ran the Time Machine Model shops in Coventry many years ago. Paul and I are avid James Murray enthusiasts - Murray as many of you know was responsible for designing most of Victorian Coventry and had an amazing but short life working under EW Pugin. We've detailed his work on here before. Incredibly he died aged only 32 and is buried in LRC - we have many photos on the forum of his grave. Anyway a lot of Paul's interest stemmed from being a student at Murray's Art School in Ford Street shown here. Forum image As we all know it was sadly demolished, along with Trinity School, by George Hilditch. The lovely school building was also adorned with five lovely stone friezes - all the work of sculptor Richard Lockwood Boulton (a favourite of Pugin). During the demolition Hilditch offered the five sculptures to the Herbert for display and they chose to just store them. The result was that George Hilditch retained one (the artist). Lost for many years, thanks to Paul and Alan Denyer (the chap who ran the recent CET building exhibitions), it's been found sat in a Welsh garden! We're not entirely sure how it got there but Paul and Alan have been trying to work with the Herbert to recover the artwork and return it 'home'. With the then owner in agreement however, sadly the Herbert sat with it for over 6 months doing nothing and now the house and garden have been sold, with the 'new' owner wanting to now hold on to it Sad This could have been the last chance for it as apparently the stone is now starting to crack up. Here's Paul with it and wearing his actual old Art School scarf! Here's hoping for any further developments. I'll be trying to 'hassle' the Herbert into action but don't hold your breath - but it's a great discovery all the same. Oh, and Paul also found this. Thanks to the Coventry Society, the only known photo of James Murray! Big grin I'm off to LRC in a couple of weeks to salute him! Mod's note: The buildings themselves have their own thread here
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Midland Red

2 of 25  Tue 5th Feb 2019 7:58am  

Great finds, Neil Cheers - but sad indictment on the Herbert and its inactivity Sad Thanks for posting the story and the images Thumbs up
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argon
New Milton
3 of 25  Tue 5th Feb 2019 1:04pm  

I wonder what the memorial to the architects of the present day Coventry will be.
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Robthu
Coventry
4 of 25  Tue 5th Feb 2019 4:00pm  

A Crackerjack Cabbage (younger members, look it up). Derek.
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Garlands Joke Shop
Coventry
5 of 25  Tue 5th Feb 2019 5:35pm  

Great bit of detective work by you and your comrades Thumbs up It's a shame that it's unlikely to come back to Coventry, but at least you now know where it is. The sculpting style appears to be quite reminiscent of the niches on James Murray's grave monument - was Mr Pugin responsible for this?
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NeilsYard
Coventry
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6 of 25  Tue 5th Feb 2019 7:42pm  

Yes, I had noticed that, Garlands, and suspect Pugin commissioned Boulton to work on that as well.
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Prof
Gloucester
7 of 25  Mon 7th Sep 2020 9:55am  

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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
8 of 25  Sun 13th Sep 2020 9:18am  

Spon End railway bridge arches were made of red sandstone in 1848/9 - for some years they were claimed unsafe, they fell down in 1857 causing a sensation in the city. A sketch drawn by Mr Murray showing the destruction of the arches, was sent to the Illustrated London News for display. The new arches were made of blue brick.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
9 of 25  Sun 13th Sep 2020 9:35am  

But this was in the days when the school was in Ford Street - previous to that, the school of design, or art school, was in St Mary's Hall.
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Gas Centre
Perth Scotland
10 of 25  Wed 3rd Feb 2021 11:46am  

Post copied from topic Stoneleigh Terrace on 2nd May 2021 11:49 am
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NeilsYard
Coventry
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11 of 25  Thu 29th Apr 2021 9:13am  

Cliff has found this cracker from the Coventry Archives which must have been in the Terrace's final days. Post copied from topic Stoneleigh Terrace on 2nd May 2021 11:46 am
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3Spires
SW Leicestershire
12 of 25  Thu 29th Apr 2021 11:07am  

The Terrace reminds me of the St Pancras Hotel.
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NeilsYard
Coventry
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13 of 25  Thu 29th Apr 2021 11:10am  

3Spires, the original St Pancras Hotel opened in 1873 so around the same time.
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3Spires
SW Leicestershire
14 of 25  Thu 29th Apr 2021 12:32pm  

Thanks Neil. You can sense the influence of Gilbert Scott, and both AW and EW Pugin, on the architect.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
15 of 25  Fri 30th Apr 2021 9:16am  

Post 11 of Neil's shows were Coventry's 'red sea' used to be, only it wasn't a sea, just a red pond from the clay substance in Victorian times where those trees now stand, and Pugin lived right behind those trees in Warwick Row.
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