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Not Local
Bedworth |
391 of 423
Wed 22nd May 2024 9:36pm
Just a bit further away, but the correct lintels - how about 120 Shakespeare Street ? |
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20A-Manor House
Coventry |
392 of 423
Wed 22nd May 2024 11:07pm
On 22nd May 2024 8:30pm, Rob Orland said:
Oooh.... Marlborough Road, with the front gardens, too, is starting to look like a distinct possibility! Nice one, Helen!
Can't be Marlborough Road, as it needs a bus in the front garden:
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Helen F
Warrington |
393 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 8:42am
On 22nd May 2024 9:36pm, Not Local said:
Just a bit further away, but the correct lintels - how about 120 Shakespeare Street ?
Very close  but I don't think it's the right one. The door lintel has only half a brick between it and the next one to the left in the photo, while 120 has a whole brick. Also the step onto the path is deeper, although the path heights might have been altered. Of course we may be looking for a building that may no longer exist. There are a lot of newer buildings in the area, so a certain number of the original buildings may have been replaced.
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PhiliPamInCoventry
Holbrooks |
394 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 9:28am
Hello,
The Destination blind on the six wheeler, shows No3, Stoke Alermoor. Marlborough Rd, was the route of the No3, at one time, as it picked up from the former Hillman factory at the Hood St end of Lower Ford St, then the Humber offices (that became Lloyds bank) in Gosford Green, before turning right into Marlborough Rd, off Ball Hill.
The description "Shadow Factory" at this point in time was Humber Rd. The Ryton plant was the Shadow Factory during the second world war.
The current route of the No3 involving Charter Ave, started as early as 1931, so whether a workers special was retained using the original route I cannot find info. Certainly, the route via Marlborough Rd, had been abandoned by 1937. There are no pictures that I can find of the six wheelers after 1933.
A bit of confusion, because the new transport manager stated that in September 1935, the then current terminus of the No3 would be extended from Stoke Green, to Stoke Aldermoor. There's a bit of contradiction in the source's of info. |
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Wearethemods
Aberdeenshire |
395 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 10:19am
Judging by the Lintels, it could easily be the Road I was born in, Kirby Road, Earlsdon, or one of the surrounding streets looking at 'Google' streetview. |
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PhiliPamInCoventry
Holbrooks |
396 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 10:37am
Hello,
Quite apart from the forensic bus details, we have three printed details in the newspaper.
1. Marlborough Rd.
2. Address No55.
3. Mr. & Mrs. Fernyhough.
If those details can be confirmed, that will settle the location. |
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Annewiggy
Tamworth |
397 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 10:49am
But Marlborough road the door lintels are the same size as the windows. The picture shows that the family door has a smaller one. |
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Helen F
Warrington |
398 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 11:00am
I don't think any of the places we've looked at so far are the spot. Something is wrong about each location. Finding the right lintels is just step one. The oddity is that the different blocks are scattered around the area and not necessarily a whole road. It makes me wonder if there were different building companies or the scheme was planned to have variety. |
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Not Local
Bedworth |
399 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 11:02am
I still think that the location can't be far from Clements Street given that the photographer would have had to transport his heavy camera and tripod to the scene. No pocket cameras in those days.
My bet is still on Shakespeare Street because the lintels are exactly correct.
As Helen says, there is every possibility that the house in the picture was removed by Mr Hitler or by subsequent redevelopment. |
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Helen F
Warrington |
400 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 11:48am
According to the 1906 map, they hadn't started on anything east of Swan Lane, including Clements Street. They were still developing the most northerly area west of Swan Lane, including King Edward Road. You can see that they were leaving gaps between blocks for a different type of block. Here is another similar but not quite right block on King Edward Road. Again the gap between door lintels is a full brick not a half. |
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PhiliPamInCoventry
Holbrooks |
401 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 12:00pm
Hello,
Has anyone access to historic names & addresses as reported in the newspaper report? That will surely confirm the newspaper report details. As to whether that ties up with the original photo query??? |
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Helen F
Warrington |
402 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 1:03pm
I don't see why the newspaper details would be wrong. The roads have a mixture of styles, including bays and others with no front garden at all. I think that finding the right property might be very, very difficult. Not only are there missing properties, there are modern mods like porches. |
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Annewiggy
Tamworth |
403 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 5:46pm
Stoke Portrait Co were taking pictures for Coventry Graphic in 1912 and 1913. Mostly of sports teams and other groups including army. There is one of Wellington Street Juniors. Not of much help but roughly dates the picture. |
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PhiliPamInCoventry
Holbrooks |
404 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 5:55pm
Hello,
My attention to the crashed bus picture was my curiosity as to why the No3 was in Marlborough Rd.
I'm now ok with that. |
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20A-Manor House
Coventry |
405 of 423
Thu 23rd May 2024 6:09pm
On 23rd May 2024 9:28am, PhiliPamInCoventry said:
Hello,
The Destination blind on the six wheeler, shows No3, Stoke Alermoor. Marlborough Rd, was the route of the No3, at one time, as it picked up from the former Hillman factory at the Hood St end of Lower Ford St, then the Humber offices (that became Lloyds bank) in Gosford Green, before turning right into Marlborough Rd, off Ball Hill.
The description "Shadow Factory" at this point in time was Humber Rd. The Ryton plant was the Shadow Factory during the second world war.
The current route of the No3 involving Charter Ave, started as early as 1931, so whether a workers special was retained using the original route I cannot find info. Certainly, the route via Marlborough Rd, had been abandoned by 1937. There are no pictures that I can find of the six wheelers after 1933.
A bit of confusion, because the new transport manager stated that in September 1935, the then current terminus of the No3 would be extended from Stoke Green, to Stoke Aldermoor. There's a bit of contradiction in the source's of info.
The date of the accident was Wednesday 1st March 1939.
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