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heathite
Coventry
46 of 64  Mon 21st Oct 2019 4:18pm  

Hi and yes, you are right on a couple of counts, Greyfriars not Whitefriars for one. The archaeologist suggested that the brick was bolstering older constructions. He also said the column that we see was probably used to span the brickwork for strengthening it. A sort of happy find for a needed solution. Do you have any ideas about the white stone walls? It certainly looks a busy area with the different materials and could pose a puzzle to synchronize the placement of the same. I asked about the teeth marks in the column and he said they were already there. They hadn't damaged the column because present codes of practice do not allow buckets with teeth to be used. Thank you for the feedback.
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Helen F
Warrington
47 of 64  Mon 21st Oct 2019 6:00pm  

For Christchurch the spire was at the east end but Greyfriars the spire was in the middle. Looking at the plot, it can't be part of Christchurch in situ because it's at the wrong end of the spire. Forum library image This image is almost at right angles to the map. Off the south side were cloisters and other monastery buildings and these were demolished and stayed undisturbed until much more recently they were built over with the National School, housing an iron and brass foundry, and even a veterinary's infirmary. If you can indicate on the map where you were looking I could have a stab at matching the ruins to the old maps.
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heathite
Coventry
48 of 64  Mon 21st Oct 2019 6:24pm  

Hello Helen, does this image help? They are excavating right in front of Central Hall entrance in New Union Street. The new swimming pool complex is to the immediate right. If you still need a map I'll post one.
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Helen F
Warrington
49 of 64  Mon 21st Oct 2019 6:45pm  

Ah, so it is within the footprint of both Greyfriars and Christchurch? The nave of Greyfriars and Christchurch were supposed to be similar except Christchurch's nave went all the way to the end. Whereas Greyfriars nipped in as you can see on the diagram.
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heathite
Coventry
50 of 64  Mon 21st Oct 2019 7:07pm  

Brill, thank you Helen. An overlay would be interesting. But here's the best I can do with a map on a mobile.
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PeterB
Mount Nod
51 of 64  Tue 22nd Oct 2019 5:06pm  

I think the column base is from Christ Church. It fits in with the Gothic Revival style (old where you can see it - modern where you can't). I assume the "U" shaped channel was part of some warm air underfloor heating system. I took a photo from the opposite (spire) side of the excavation and there is some stonework which looks much older. Perhaps this was part of Greyfriars? Peter.
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Helen F
Warrington
52 of 64  Tue 22nd Oct 2019 9:21pm  

Christ Church had a slight kink inward at the west end. Were you anywhere near the red pointer on Old Maps? Location of Christ Church
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PeterB
Mount Nod
53 of 64  Tue 22nd Oct 2019 10:12pm  

Hi Helen, That is almost the right place, but I think I was more in the ruins (in front of the spire) rather than in front of the Methodist Central Hall. I'll double check tomorrow as I didn't look behind me! Peter.
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Helen F
Warrington
54 of 64  Tue 22nd Oct 2019 10:33pm  

The location is the pointy end of the red things, not the bullseye.
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heathite
Coventry
55 of 64  Wed 23rd Oct 2019 4:37pm  

Hi, here's today's offering. The top image of the white stone wall needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise. Then, hopefully it can be identified on the second image.
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Helen F
Warrington
56 of 64  Wed 23rd Oct 2019 6:57pm  

I think it's safe to say that the dogleg is part of Christ Church. The mishmash of brick and stone needs the experts to disentangle. Most of it is proably bits of floor support. I only have an exterior plan of Christchurch and have no idea exactly where the pillars and interior walls were. Thanks Heathite and PeterB for keeping us up to date.
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heathite
Coventry
57 of 64  Thu 24th Oct 2019 9:27am  

That's a large footprint in front of the spire. Credit 1946 Britain from Above.
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NeilsYard
Coventry
58 of 64  Wed 30th Oct 2019 5:27pm  

My youngest was at The Wave today, the new pool complex and took the opportunity to look at this aspect (southern) briefly which was not always previously open to inspection -
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heathite
Coventry
59 of 64  Thu 7th Nov 2019 3:38pm  

The recovered stone with the digger bucket teeth marks.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
60 of 64  Thu 7th Nov 2019 4:36pm  

Once Greyfriars was noted for the rich beauty of its ecclesiastic buildings, in Coventry. But then a monk spent twelve months on probation in ordinary clothes, working at what was asked of him without pay. Then if he proved his worthiness, then standing in only underpants surrounded by chanting fathers in a circle around him he would receive his robes. Mostly the twelve months would be boring, all emotion diverted to the channels of religion, hard and austere. The monastery, most had extraordinary privileges the monks exempt from military service, and from all taxation including any imports or export taxation on goods, or death duties. Often the oldest buildings being the most important. The holy girdle near the gate, so was the porters lodge that sold necessities.
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