PhiliPamInCoventry
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 8:19am
Hello Johnnie,
I wonder if the contestants who "Are brilliant", started their formal schooling, already aware of basic reading & counting?
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JohnnieWalker
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 8:37am
It wouldn't surprise me at all, Philip. Literacy is hereditary. Our 12-year-old grandson (our aforementioned daughter's son) had a bedtime story read to him by his mum or dad every night from when he was born to when he didn't need help to read. He's got through Stephen Hawking's "Brief History of Time" with about as much understanding of it as I did (possibly more!) and can discuss the implications of it! He tops his class in literacy and numeracy, has started to build robot machines, and is a great goalie for his local football team too!
Yes - that kid was 11 years old when that photo was taken - he had just saved a penalty! His parents had to take his birth certificate to games to prove his age!
Mind you, I don't approve 100% in encouraging infants to read - that aforementioned daughter was given my VERY favourite Bambi picture book to read at bedtime when she was two years old, and she ripped the book to shreds!
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PhiliPamInCoventry
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 9:13am
Hello again,
Over my lifetime I've had a cross section mix of most of society. I started volunteering with Coventry Mind in 1988, not because of any virtue of mine, it was to help a friend do motor pickups whilst he was on holiday. I loved what I saw being done. So for me involved in the professional part of society along side my volunteering forty years ago, I have a comparison on what I'm seeing now in Coventry.
If I didn't have that personal comparison, I might struggle to believe what I'm now seeing as fact.
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Helen F
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 9:39am
The problem is multi-fold and mired in countless political minefields. There is a solution but it requires a society wide will to reset problems rather than bolt on endless small fixes, which in turn generate more flaws. |
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Annewiggy
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 11:39am
My daughter was taught the ITA system when she first started at school, words were spelt how they sounded some using funny letters. How any child could spell after that I don't know. Fortunately we went abroad. The system in Luxembourg was completely different. Alan at pre school was given a small black board and a white crayon and had to do rows of a shape joined together. At the infant school Janice had the same board and was given letters to do the same. When they got better they were then allowed to use paper and pencil. They were given groups of letters at a time and their reading book advanced with the same letters. (French!) so eventualy she could after the 2 years we were there do nice joined up writing. When we returned back to England. She started back at school. I was called in one day and told that she could not do joined up writing as the other children wanted to do it.
Another disadvantage I found for kids of that era was that digital watches had come in. It was some time before I realised that they could not tell the time on an analogue clock !
Looking at the present time I have spoken to a couple of teenagers at secondary school who say they don't like maths. Have you looked at the maths they teach them now. I realise that some do want to go on into jobs that will require it but surely there could be a level that could use the time better and be taught maths that woukd be more useful in the day to day world. Basic stuff so they can add up their change in shops. Money management and about interest when you borrow. Nit the sort of stuff my granddaughter will say, why do I need that ? |
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Helen F
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 2:49pm
I was started on ITA, as was my brother. It messed him up big time but I can't say that I noticed the difference. I was bad at spelling both but had no trouble reading either. I'd read most things, so long as they weren't boring. I didn't learn to spell until the Sinclair QL. It had a very early word processor with a noisy, irritating spell checker. Not only could I read what I'd written (unlike my own handwriting) but the beep it made when I got something wrong taught my fingers how to spell. I still can't spell out words but mostly I can type them. |
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Annewiggy
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 6:27pm
I am not very good at spelling which is why I prefer working with numbers. I can spell big words it is mostly things like should it be ee or ea or should there be an e before a y. Yes thank goodness for spell checker, especially on my ipad which seems to put different letters in to what I type, most likely because I don't hit the keys in the middle. You may spot that sometimes in my posts (even that came out as pists ! My brothers are dreadful spellers. My older brother had sosaj on one of his camping trips ! |
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Choirboy
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 8:43pm
Fortunately, I was taught to read before I started school by mother using the rhyming couplets that accompanied the Rupert Bear cartoon in the Daily Express. My motivation was to be able to read the exploits of Dan Dare in my elder brother's Eagle comic before he returned from school and confiscated it. Writing was taught using individual blackboards and chalk at Richard Lee Infants that I only attended for a few months before becoming ill with polio. After recovering from illness (thank the Lord) I returned to schooling at Stoke Infants, Briton Road where we were allowed pencil and paper. My diet changed from chalk to wood because I have the unconscious tendency to eat what ever is is my hand while thinking what to write. (ATM it is a 25 cl bottle of 'St Omer biere blonde' and I have not yet managed to master consuming glass.) Perhaps using phonetics has inhibited me learning the visual pattern recognition ability that is necessary to master spelling irregular words. |
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JohnnieWalker
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Sat 15th Jun 2024 9:36pm
Reminded me of the Rupert Bear rhyming couplets - I loved those stories and they were possibly what kick-started my interest in poetry. It fell dormant through my teens but was revived in spades when Pam Ayres came along! Incidentally, I recently wrote a short play in verse, which won a competition, and the professional who directed it explained that the amateur actors loved it because the rhyming made it so much easier to remember their lines. Our brains must be tuned in somehow to enjoy hearing rhyming.
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Dreamtime
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Sun 16th Jun 2024 7:57am
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Helen F
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I'm sorry for the rest of you, but this is my kind of summer weather. |
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Sun 16th Jun 2024 12:00pm
I'd never heard of ITA, so I had to bing it. Judging by other people's comments, I'm rather glad we didn't do it. It seems like another of those things that's supposed to simplify, but ends up complicating things. A bit like those foreign alphabets that are full of unintelligible squiggles that all look the same to me. Thake Thai, for instance - hundreds of squiggles, with 60 or 70 characters on a line, all together, with no spaces anywhere! How anyone is supposed to understand that is beyond my brain. And I was gifted and top in languages at school. But those languages all used the normal alphabet. And only 23 characters in Latin.
I'm glad we had to learn, as kiddywinks, silly songs like Betty Botter bought some butter. I can still recite it very fast. Easy when you learn it young, and to a tune, and it rhymes. Advertisers know this - "you wonder where the yellow went, when you brush your teeth with Pepsident".
I was proud, aged 5, that I could read the first chapter of our new "red book" before teacher could teach it us. The whole chapter was:
Little Red Hen
Little Red Hen lives in a little red house.
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PhiliPamInCoventry
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Sun 16th Jun 2024 7:02pm
Hello,
The story of The Little Red Hen, was also in the Beacon reader books. Think book four.
It was possibly watching my mum working her shop stuff out in our front room, where our front room in Sewall Highway was breakfast room in the morning & meal times, but was mum's office several times in a week. Her calculating machines fascinated me, as she balanced her books & stock levels, not that I knew anything of that at age 4.
That's one of the reasons that I honestly believe that the Psychology folk have got it right regards the ages of children's learning.
I was fascinated with anything working remotely like my mum's mechanical calculators. My Uncle playing the Gaumont organ, where the piano was playing on its own. My career was based on caculating, whilst my music hobby likewise on mechanical coupling, where we can also throw in our railway.
My dominating interests had been set before my age of 7. |
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Helen F
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Sun 16th Jun 2024 8:06pm
Probably the first book I remember is the Magic Fish - fantasy, so yes, it was a reflection of my future self. Moral of the story, stop when you've got the castle...
"Oh, fish in the sea, come listen to me. My wife begs a wish from the magic fish" |
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PhiliPamInCoventry
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Mon 17th Jun 2024 8:58am
Hello,
The world is in chaos regards weather, not a corner left out. There is also criticism of our national weather statisticians who may have moved the goal posts claming that May was exceptionally warm. I burnt more energy heating our home in May than previous years, plus the energy companies are reporting similar nationally.
Some celebrity weather folk have shared some ums & arrs hoping it will all die down.
Slight risk of a shower today, but a much drier week than last week in prospect.
Possibly a bit warmer later & into next week, but definite forecasting by all of the kings horses or his men can not be relied on.
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